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Allyson
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To mount externally you would put the drive in a USB drive enclosure or dock. If you don't have one you are sort of out of luck.
For Drive Management go to your Control Panel then Administrative Tools. Select Computer Management then Disk Management.
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Allyson
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 5:40 pm |
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jaylach wrote: To mount externally you would put the drive in a USB drive enclosure or dock. If you don't have one you are sort of out of luck.
For Drive Management go to your Control Panel then Administrative Tools. Select Computer Management then Disk Management. OK......got there and it says 951.2gb NTFS Healthy Active Primary Partition Image Back up Healthy Logical drive, Healthy System Active Primary Partition, abd Windows Healthy Boot Page file.Crash Dump Primary Partition This is one of the hard drives that will not boot up
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jaylach
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:03 pm |
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Allyson wrote: OK......got there and it says 951.2gb NTFS Healthy Active Primary Partition
Image Back up Healthy Logical drive, Healthy System Active Primary Partition, abd Windows Healthy Boot Page file.Crash Dump Primary Partition OK, so it is a 1 TB drive that looks OK and has at least part of a Windows install judging by it stating Page File. But just to be sure let's setup the drive again. Right click on all shown partitions and select to delete or remove. You should now show unallocated space for the entire drive. Right click on the unallocated space and select to create a new simple partition and follow the prompts using all available space. Put it back in the system in question and try to install Windows 7. I say Windows 7 as I just have a hunch that XP is just too old to install on your hardware. You could even try installing Windows 10. If you try 10 bypass entering a key code during install then enter a Windows 7 or 8/8.1 code once in Windows. The 10 version has to match the 7/8 code. In other words if the code is for Home edition you need to install the 10 Home edition. Once you have a working Windows install I will be happy to guide you through setting up an XP virtual machine. It really isn't hard.
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Allyson
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:02 pm |
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jaylach wrote: Allyson wrote: OK......got there and it says 951.2gb NTFS Healthy Active Primary Partition
Image Back up Healthy Logical drive, Healthy System Active Primary Partition, abd Windows Healthy Boot Page file.Crash Dump Primary Partition OK, so it is a 1 TB drive that looks OK and has at least part of a Windows install judging by it stating Page File. But just to be sure let's setup the drive again. Right click on all shown partitions and select to delete or remove. You should now show unallocated space for the entire drive. Right click on the unallocated space and select to create a new simple partition and follow the prompts using all available space. Put it back in the system in question and try to install Windows 7. I say Windows 7 as I just have a hunch that XP is just too old to install on your hardware. You could even try installing Windows 10. If you try 10 bypass entering a key code during install then enter a Windows 7 or 8/8.1 code once in Windows. The 10 version has to match the 7/8 code. In other words if the code is for Home edition you need to install the 10 Home edition. Once you have a working Windows install I will be happy to guide you through setting up an XP virtual machine. It really isn't hard. Hi Jay...........I came across another hard drive and put it in one of the computers that would not boot and I now have a computer that boots up to Windows 7 Pro and about 800gb of free space. One thing I need to know before we do this is whether or not it will affect the files because there are quite a few videos on this computer that I dont want to lose.
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jaylach
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:11 pm |
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If what will affect files? Installing a virtual machine? If so, no installing a virtual machine will not affect any existing files. Still it is always better to be safe than sorry. Make a backup of any important data files such as the videos.
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Allyson
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jaylach wrote: If what will affect files? Installing a virtual machine? If so, no installing a virtual machine will not affect any existing files. Still it is always better to be safe than sorry. Make a backup of any important data files such as the videos. Ok, I think I have enough room for them on one of my USB Hard Drives so will get that going and get back to you
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Allyson
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:00 pm |
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jaylach wrote: If what will affect files? Installing a virtual machine? If so, no installing a virtual machine will not affect any existing files. Still it is always better to be safe than sorry. Make a backup of any important data files such as the videos. OK Im ready. I hope we get this done soon because my sister is having a fit with the computer stuff I have all over the place.
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:36 pm |
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I assume that we are going with a virtual machine... We need to make sure that your system supports hardware virtualization and that it is enabled. This will determine which version of VirtualBox we install. This utility should work with either an AMD or Intel CPU. https://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/CPU-Tweak/AMD-Virtualization-Technology-and-Microsoft-Hyper-V-System-Compatibility-Check-Utility.shtmlUnzip and right click on the app and select to run as admin. It will tell you if the CPU has hardware virtualization but not if it is enabled. Last mentioned you were running an Intel I5. Is this true of the current machine? If so download and run the following instead of the above. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=592Once checked we will get VirtualBox downloaded and installed. <edit>Actually this may be easier with no downloads. 1) Click Start and type run and hit enter. 2) Enter cmd and OK 3) At the proppt type systeminfo.exe and hit enter. 4) Look for the Hyper-V requirements. There are probably 4 entries and hopefully all say 'Yes'. The most important are the top two. This is what you are after: Attachment:
2020-12-01_18-45-10.jpg [ 88.34 KiB | Viewed 3660 times ]
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Allyson
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:08 pm |
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jaylach wrote: I assume that we are going with a virtual machine... We need to make sure that your system supports hardware virtualization and that it is enabled. This will determine which version of VirtualBox we install. This utility should work with either an AMD or Intel CPU. https://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/CPU-Tweak/AMD-Virtualization-Technology-and-Microsoft-Hyper-V-System-Compatibility-Check-Utility.shtmlUnzip and right click on the app and select to run as admin. It will tell you if the CPU has hardware virtualization but not if it is enabled. Last mentioned you were running an Intel I5. Is this true of the current machine? If so download and run the following instead of the above. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=592Once checked we will get VirtualBox downloaded and installed. <edit>Actually this may be easier with no downloads. 1) Click Start and type run and hit enter. 2) Enter cmd and OK 3) At the proppt type systeminfo.exe and hit enter. 4) Look for the Hyper-V requirements. There are probably 4 entries and hopefully all say 'Yes'. The most important are the top two. This is what you are after: Attachment: 2020-12-01_18-45-10.jpg Nothing Like that came up. There were no files with yes yes yes after them
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 10:17 pm |
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Allyson
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:30 pm |
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Posted: Tue Dec 01, 2020 11:55 pm |
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Allyson
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:59 am |
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jaylach wrote: OK, I have downloaded that second link "Softpedia" now whats next?
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:20 am |
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Unzip and right click on amdvhyperv.exe. Select to run as admin.. This is supposed to work with both AMD and Intel CPUs. We shall see as to Intel as I already know it does with AMD. The thing is that it will tell if capable but not if enabled although it MIGHT say something if not enabled...
It should tell us if your system is capable of hardware virtualization. If not an earlier version of VirtualBox will be needed; version 5.x instead of the current 6.x. We may go with version 5.x regardless as bbarry had some issues with version 6.x and XP but not with 5.x. I have no issues with version 6.x but I am full blown as to hardware virtualization.
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 12:44 pm |
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jaylach wrote: Unzip and right click on amdvhyperv.exe. Select to run as admin.. This is supposed to work with both AMD and Intel CPUs. We shall see as to Intel as I already know it does with AMD. The thing is that it will tell if capable but not if enabled although it MIGHT say something if not enabled...
It should tell us if your system is capable of hardware virtualization. If not an earlier version of VirtualBox will be needed; version 5.x instead of the current 6.x. We may go with version 5.x regardless as bbarry had some issues with version 6.x and XP but not with 5.x. I have no issues with version 6.x but I am full blown as to hardware virtualization. I think I need that earlier version. I downloaded the one you told me and I can't even find it on my computer. Its not in my download folder and I looked everywhere on the computer and it does not show up.........so I tried to download it again and it said that it's already downloaded.
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 1:11 pm |
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Jay, I was forced to upgrade to Virtual Box 6.0 a few weeks ago, and no problems so far.
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 3:13 pm |
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Thanks BB.  Allyson, are you talking about the tool to check your system or VirtualBox that you tried to download? Still, assuming that you are running an I5 CPU (would you confirm that?), it should have hardware virtualization.
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:39 pm |
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jaylach wrote: Thanks BB. Allyson, are you talking about the tool to check your system or VirtualBox that you tried to download? Still, assuming that you are running an I5 CPU (would you confirm that?), it should have hardware virtualization. I am talking about that Softpedia thing you showed me what to click on up above. I downloaded it and whatever I was supposed to get does not appear on my computer or it's there and I cant find it. The specs on the computer read as follows: Intel (R) Core (TM) I5-4460 cpu@ 3.20 GHz 8.0 gb Ram, 64 bit OS. I have not downloaded Virtual Box at this point. You also mentioned that this has to be run as "Administrator" and maybe that is the problem. How do I proclaim myself as Administrator? Maybe I am just a low level user? I did buy the computer new and I am the only user.
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 4:58 pm |
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Since the CPU is an I5 let's just assume that it has hardware virtualization. Being an I5 it should. I'm going to put the VirtualBox instructions in another thread as a bit of a tutorial. The link will be: viewtopic.php?f=34&t=2522It will take a bit of time to get the instructions up. BTW, when stated to run as admin it means to right click on the file and select the run as admin option.
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Allyson
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jaylach wrote: Since the CPU is an I5 let's just assume that it has hardware virtualization. Being an I5 it should. I'm going to put the VirtualBox instructions in another thread as a bit of a tutorial. The link will be: https://computerhaven.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=2522It will take a bit of time to get the instructions up. BTW, when stated to run as admin it means to right click on the file and select the run as admin option. I let that other thread you sent me to , to run for an hour but nothing came up
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:13 pm |
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I'm not done with the tutorial yet. I will post here when done. It is taking a while as I'm doing images of each step...
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jaylach wrote: I'm not done with the tutorial yet. I will post here when done. It is taking a while as I'm doing images of each step... Ok, no problem Jay.......just so glad you are doing all this for me
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 7:51 pm |
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No problem. I've been intending, but putting off, doing such a tutorial anyway.
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Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:08 pm |
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Tutorial is done through Windows XP installing. There are a few things I'll add after the install is done. Here is the tutorial. I hope that it is found to be informative and helpful... viewtopic.php?f=34&t=2522&p=26804#p26804
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