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 Post Posted: Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:59 pm 
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Under which Control Panel heading do you see that setting?


Control Panel>Administrative Tools>Services>Windows Update>Windows Update Properties (local computer)

The General Tab there shows that Startup type is disabled and Service status is Stopped


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Oh, OK. I never thought to look under the services list. I wonder why yours is set to disabled but mine is set to manual. Actually I'm surprised that mine is not set to auto, possibly due to my having Updates set to notify only.

I also wonder if your Update service being set to disabled could be part of your issue unless it has been confirmed that your system is definitely not compatible. I want to suggest that you set the Update service to manual or auto but would like to see what Steve and/or others think first.

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Change it to Manual and start the service and report back what happens. Odd that it is disabled/stopped.

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sboots wrote:
Change it to Manual and start the service and report back what happens. Odd that it is disabled/stopped.


Hi Steve, I changed it to Manual/start and that now allows me to restart the computer without going through that long update process......OMG. Can I assume now that my 1709 version is somewhat fixed and will never rise up to the level of 1803 and beyond?


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Hard to say what the ultimate outcome will be, but the service certainly needed to be enabled in order for Windows Update to work properly. That doesn't necessarily address what is causing it not to update to 1803/1809.

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sboots wrote:
Hard to say what the ultimate outcome will be, but the service certainly needed to be enabled in order for Windows Update to work properly. That doesn't necessarily address what is causing it not to update to 1803/1809.


One last question. It's really working great right now so can you tell me what 1809 might have that would make it better than what I have with 1709? Is it just more protection that I would be afforded or what?


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Well, since you also don't have 1803...

Version 1803 changes: https://pureinfotech.com/windows-10-red ... -features/
Version 1809 changes: https://pureinfotech.com/windows-10-red ... -features/

Personally, I would not be overly concerned about remaining on 1709 and not getting upgraded.
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I agree with Steve in that you are not missing much although there are some improvements in things like Cortana and 3D Paint. Most people would never notice the difference in running 1709 or 1809.

Hey Steve, at the risk of opening a can of worms... ;)

When Microsoft put out Windows 10 they claimed that it would be good for the life of your hardware. Now for systems that can no longer do feature updates it is only supported until 2023. What happens if such a system is still running in 2023? Is Microsoft in any way guilty of a breach of promise? An individual would probably never win such a case but one never knows in the case of a class action... I'm actually not joking. I am honestly curious as to if Microsoft could have any liability.

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Interesting can of worms. I don't know the answer to that. I'd be interested to see the actual verbiage of the statement. There has always been an end of life date for Windows versions. The change to these semi-annual feature updates, each with their own end of life date for support really makes a mess of things...

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sboots wrote:
Interesting can of worms. I don't know the answer to that. I'd be interested to see the actual verbiage of the statement. There has always been an end of life date for Windows versions. The change to these semi-annual feature updates, each with their own end of life date for support really makes a mess of things...


Twas the night before New Years and all through the house,
Not a creature was stirring except for my mouse.

It was searching for data to make Windows right,
but somehow I knew I would be here all night.

The guys from the Haven were sending me thoughts,
Some of it made sense, some tying me in knots.

What should I do with my poor windows machine,
Has the time really come to wipe the thing clean.

My head was abuzz with thoughts what to do
Jaylatch and Steve were wondering too.

Then like a flash it all became clear
Just shut the thing down until the New Year

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LOL! NICE Allyson. :)

As to my can of worms the following read is interesting as it speaks of being good for the life of the hardware and also quotes Microsoft as promising at least a 10 year support. Dropping support for version 1709 would fail in meeting this claim by over two years.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft ... indows-10/

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Hey Steve, at the risk of opening a can of worms... ;)

When Microsoft put out Windows 10 they claimed that it would be good for the life of your hardware. Now for systems that can no longer do feature updates it is only supported until 2023. What happens if such a system is still running in 2023? Is Microsoft in any way guilty of a breach of promise? An individual would probably never win such a case but one never knows in the case of a class action... I'm actually not joking. I am honestly curious as to if Microsoft could have any liability.

Part of the answer to your question is found in the EULA. And that is you can no longer join a Class Action Law Suit against MS.

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