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jaylach
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Has anyone messed with the Python programming language at all? I'm thinking about playing a bit. Any insights or thoughts?
Oh, previous programming experience is HTML, JavaScript, B.A.S.I.C., Assembly and just a touch of PHP.
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Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:03 pm |
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I'm hardly qualified to answer, as my programming experience is limited to BASIC and Fortran, many years ago. But if you are thinking about doing it, then I think you should....it will probably be fun for you.
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jaylach
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Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:13 pm |
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Thanks BB. 
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Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:50 pm |
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I've not played with Python at all, but I've heard/read that it is not hard to learn, especially if you already know other programming languages. Fortran! Yes! I dabbled in Fortran over 40 years back. I remember none of it.  I did some BASIC and have debugged COBOL and JCL. I still know my way around simple HTML and some Java, though I don't actually code much these days. -steve _________________ stephen boots Microsoft MVP 2004 - 2020 "Life's always an adventure with computers!"
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jaylach
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Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:57 pm |
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sboots wrote: I've not played with Python at all, but I've heard/read that it is not hard to learn, especially if you already know other programming languages. Fortran! Yes! I dabbled in Fortran over 40 years back. I remember none of it. I did some BASIC and have debugged COBOL and JCL. I still know my way around simple HTML and some Java, though I don't actually code much these days. -steve What is Fortran like? I've heard that it isn't strong as to graphics which I would want.
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Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:33 pm |
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The Fortran I used was mathematical in nature with little or no graphics. It was used to help fly the Minuteman missiles. I used it on the old Univac 1108 computers. Like Steve, I remember none of it.
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jaylach
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Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2020 9:39 pm |
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bbarry wrote: The Fortran I used was mathematical in nature with little or no graphics. It was used to help fly the Minuteman missiles. I used it on the old Univac 1108 computers. Like Steve, I remember none of it. OK, Thanks. That rules out FORTRAN as I would want strong graphics coverage.
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Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 12:44 pm |
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Yep -- FORTRAN is geared towards math/science. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FortranWhen I dabbled in it back in my college years, we did punch cards and handed them into the lab with a rubber band on them. We'd get out printout later in the day or the next if they were busy.  _________________ stephen boots Microsoft MVP 2004 - 2020 "Life's always an adventure with computers!"
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Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 2:40 pm |
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Yep. FORTRAN=Formula Translation. I use to do the same thing as you Steve. Except when I first started my aerospace career, I would derive the mathematical equations and then hand those to a programmer to code in FORTRAN and then submit the card deck to the computer lab. Later I learned to also do most of the FORTRAN programming myself, thereby cutting out the middle man, lol.
I just saw this interesting fact on the internet (I have no idea where they got their estimates):
Programs or subroutines written in FORTRAN are used approximately 17,000,000,000 times per day in 2019. The subroutines may be called from programs written in almost any other language in addition to FORTRAN itself.
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jaylach
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Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:25 pm |
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Sigh, I already have the same gripe with Python as I always had with JavaScript. I just don't get why it is considered needed to put so much in (). Quotes in something like a print statement to denote what is to be printed I can fully understand but I just don't get why Print "Hello World" is not sufficient and it has to be Print ("Hello World"). Still it is simpler than JavaScript which would require Document.write ("Hello World"). To me it is just added keystrokes that should not be needed. Remember that I got started with systems that had a very small amount of memory and tight, compact, code was not only efficient but needed.  Just a minor gripe. LOL! gotta gripe about something.  Actually I never really understood a 'shortcut' in B.A.S.I.C. for printing to the screen. Print "Hello World" and ? "Hello World" do the same thing at least in older versions of B.A.S.I.C.. Never understood how a question mark equated to the print command but it did save keystrokes.
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