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 Post Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:27 pm 
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So are you saying that I should be able to go to the HostGator cPanel and create my subdomain, even though my domain is registered with GoDaddy?

And no, I don't plan on running a forum or anything requiring a data base, so you won't be getting any competition from me, lol. I'm just playing around to keep my mind sharp.

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That should be the case as to the sub domain BB. Still, it won't be a fact until tried.

Actually I'd love to see you run a certain program named Piwigo so you could put your critter videos on-line. Piwigo does need a data base. Of course the fact that I'd like to see you do something like that; my opinion means nothing. Of course all that matters with your site is what you want. ;)

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Jay, I went to the Piwigo website and frankly got a little confused on exactly what it is that they are offering. Appeared to be a certain degree of smoke & mirrors. You probably have a different opinion as you probably use it and are familiar with its operation. Also, the Individual package for $44/year allows only images (no videos). The Enterprise package at $337/year allows videos but is more than I care to spend.

The majority of my critter stuff is short 9MB, 10-second videos (AVI or MP4 format), but I do have some JPEG images. I know I can put the images on my website, and I was hoping to make the videos available on my website to anyone who wanted to click and view. But I lack experience in working with videos this way, so I have a lot of studying to do. Any suggestions for doing this would be welcomed.

Currently I email my critter videos to a group of about 45 individuals. The email text briefly describes the attached video, which the recipient can then click to view if so desired.

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I would love to have the link that you went to! Piwigo is open source and free. This is the link you would want.
https://piwigo.org/

Still, on an initial install Piwigo will not do video but there is a free plugin that handles this. I used to have Piwigo installed quite a while back and installed again to put up my air show videos. It is a work in progress as I have to re-write some of the PHP code due to the version of PHP I am using on my hosting. The most recent version is 7.3 with 7.2 being a normal default. Piwigo wants version 7.0 or later and I have to use version 5.6 for these forums to work. There are no version 6.x versions, don't ask as I have no idea as to why. I have more PHP editing to do before I can install the video player plugin but the following link will give an idea as to basic appearance with the theme I prefer. It would probably also be a good theme for your nature videos.
https://photojay.jaylach.com/

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Jay, since you didn't initially provide the link, I Googled Piwigo and it took me here:
https://piwigo.org/get-piwigo
Then I ended up here for pricing:
https://piwigo.com/pricing
There seems to be an org version and a com version. Like I said, to me it was confusing.

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If you ever decided to seriously look at this you would want https://piwigo.org/
Then you would select 'Self-Hosted Piwigo'.

I think that you were looking at services that hosted Piwigo for you; you don't want this.

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Jay, I appreciate the info on Piwigo, but I think that's a little beyond my desire and/or capability.

Will I not be able to add some short 9MB, 10-second videos to my new website (AVI and MP4 format)?

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Yes, you can put videos on your site using HTML5. Here is a sample of code:
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<video width="320" height="240" controls>
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Your browser does not support the video tag.
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The supported video types are MP4, Ogg and WebM. Any Video Converter can convert your videos for you as I believe they are AVI. I also believe that you have AVC.

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 Post Posted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 1:29 pm 
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Thanks, Jay. And yes, I have and often use AVC.

BTW, I can't get into your photojay site above...it doesn't recognize my credentials, which I guess are different than those I use on your photogallery2 site.

Back to Piwigo. The reasons I am reluctant to try it is twofold: (1) I don't know how to do self-hosting or even if I want to, and (2) I can't see me doing any PHP editing since I don't even know what that means. As it is, I am almost trying to learn more new stuff that I can handle. lol.

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I have no log-in set up for the Piwigo site. If I follow through it will be meant for display only, not member albums and such as is my photo gallery.

Self hosting just means that you have a hosting service already (as you do) verses needing a third party to host for you.

As long as your hosting is running PHP version 7 or later, probably 7.3 with 7.2 as default, there would be no editing for you to do. The only reason that I need to edit is that I have to run version 5.6 of PHP as the forums will not run correctly with version 7+.

Still it may be easier for you to just use HTML5 code and embed in your own pages. Here is a sample of the HTML5 video call. If you go full screen the videos are bad as they were taken with an early digital camera with only 3 mega pixels.
https://jaylach.com/tests/

Here is the code that does it. The video tag is pretty strong and puts up a nice display with very little and simple code. It is tested Firefox, Edge and Internet Explorer.
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/loose.dtd">
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<title>Untitled Document</title>
</head>

<body>
<video width="320" height="240" controls>
  <source src="videos/copter2.mp4" type="video/mp4">
Your browser does not support the video tag.
</video>

<video width="320" height="240" controls>
  <source src="videos/stealth1.mp4" type="video/mp4">
Your browser does not support the video tag.
</video>

</body>
</html>


Just to give you a hint... ;) If you convert videos from AVI to MP4 for this with Any Video Converter remember that not all MP4's are the same. Convert to MP4 for Xbox, not Xbox One.

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Jay, you are an excellent teacher, and I appreciate all the advice and info you have provided. Probably at this point I just need to digest all that I've read, and then actually start designing my new website, including embedding a few videos. I'm slow so I'm sure this will take me awhile, and I'm sure I will have a boatload of additional questions as I go forward. Thanks to you and Steve both for learning me all this good stuff about web hosting, domains, sub domains, web editors, etc.

BTW, when I use AVC it is usually to convert larger MP4 files (~40MB) to smaller AVI files (~5MB) so I can email them. I have yet to convert to MP4 format, but I will heed your sage advice.

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If you use the code I posted you have no choice but to convert to MP4, Ogg or WebM as those are the only three formats supported by the video tag. I recommend MP4. Feel free to cut/paste my video tag code and just change the file name.

If you notice in the video code the first line includes the word 'controls' This tells the video call to include player controls. If you use 'auto' the video will automatically play. Personally I find that annoying especially with multiple videos.

And you are quite welcome. :)

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Hey BB, I was thinking about how I would it if I wanted to embed videos as do you. Since you said a few I'll discuss using three but the number of videos is not important. What is important is making it as simple as possible. This does not mean that you have to do it the way I think I would, just a thought. ;) I assume that you would want to change the videos now and then.

I would name the video files vid1.mp4, vid2.mp4 and vid3.mp4. Keep the videos within a 'videos' folder to keep things tidy. ;) Now, when you want to change videos, you just delete the old files from the video folder on your local system and replace with the next three with the same names as the previous. Now you just re-upload the video folder to your hosting and it is done. The new videos will replace the old and there is no need to edit any code.

Just a thought... :mrgreen:

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Great thought, Jay. And you are exactly right, I would want to change the videos now & then. You are helping me tremendously to gather my thoughts.

I do have one question regarding your code (which I will shamelessly cut/paste when I am to that point). My question is........what is the file name? I am just not yet familiar with HTML5 code to recognize the file name.

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Look at this line:
<source src="videos/copter2.mp4" type="video/mp4">
'source' tells the page that the location of the video file follows. 'videos/copter2.mp4' lets it be known that the file name is 'copter2.mp4' located within the folder 'videos'. Therefore the file name is 'copter2.mp4' and the path is 'videos', hence, 'videos/copter2.mp4'. Don't worry about the 'type' designation unless you, for some reason, decide to convert to Ogg or WebM instead of MP4.

And don't worry about the "(which I will shamelessly cut/paste when I am to that point)" as that is exactly what I did. :mrgreen:

Oh, BTW, the version of Dreamweaver is old enough that HTML5 did not exist, at the time HTML4 was current. When you start by selecting to start a new page you will select 'HTML' then, on the pull-down for 'Document type', 'HTML4.1 Transitional' and create. The first line of code will be:

"<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">"

Change the 'HTML 4.01' to 'HTML 5.0' and 'html4' to 'html5'. The HTML version changes are probably not needed for things to work but will make it W3C compliant which means that the page is set up properly.
https://www.w3.org/

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I dropped Piwigo as it is just too much work to get the video display going relation is wanted. Here is about 90 minutes using the HTML video tag. No, it isn't pretty but it works. :mrgreen:
https://photojay.jaylach.com/
I just MAY use the skin from my 'potal' as to appearance...
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Hey BB, this could make things easy for you. Take a look at the following.
https://www.freewebtemplates.com/
Unless the template is listed as premium it is free except that you are supposed to leave the bottom link back to the author's site. LOL! Of course that does not mean that you can't make the link real small. :mrgreen: How this works is that you download a template and remove all sample content except for one word in each page section. You save the result as 'template.html' and use as a model for each page. Once you start a page you do a save as with the name you want for that page leaving the template file alone for future use.

Using a pre-done template saves you all the design work as you just need to plug in your content.

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Thanks, Jay. I was definitely starting to lean toward using available templates, to the extent that I was even thinking about using HostGator's online Web Builder program, even though I know that precludes designing and building my site using a program like Dreamweaver. But content (and learning a little) is what's important to me.

Questions:
(1) If I use pre-done templates, can I still insert photos and videos (using your code)?
(2) Does Dreamweaver not have at least some pre-done templates?

I started delving more into the Dreamweaver 8 manual today, and I have to admit I was a little intimidated by it all. I began to wonder if Expression Web or Kompozer might be easier for me. Still thinking on that.

One bit of good news. I finally located the folders/content for my current barrypatch.net site (the one about Honda GL1800 Goldwings). For the life of me, I could not locate the public_html directory on my computer. But then I used the File Manager within HostGator's cPanel, and there it was. I was hoping to play around with it a little bit using Dreamweaver, but maybe I can't since it was created using FrontPage. I've so much to learn, lol.

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You have to use the editor that suits you. Like I said, try a few.

No, you won't find pre-done templates within Dreamweaver.

Yes, you can edit your old site with Dreamweaver but you first have to download to your local system... actually it is probably already there. Still, to upload/download files from/to your hosting you need an FTP client. As before I recommend FileZilla.
https://filezilla-project.org/download.php

As to using a pre-done template and inserting phtos/videos check out the following. When I was looking at template sources for you I sort of liked this one and MAY even use. Only the home and air show links work.
https://photojay.jaylach.com/templates/sunset/

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Holy Moly!! Now that's exactly the kind of website I would like to have......where I can show a few of my animal videos and then replace them with another set every month or so (is that what the archives are used for?).

Where do I find this template?

BTW, I know you said that only the home and airshow links work, but home took me to someone else's site??

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LOL! OK, Home at the top works and air show on the left. ;)

The template is available from the link I provided for templates.
https://www.freewebtemplates.com/
Here is a direct link to the sunset template.
https://www.freewebtemplates.com/downlo ... 5357/demo/

The Archives could be used for previous videos or gotten rid of or named something else for a different purpose entirely. You MUST remember that this is a template, not something finished or setup at all. You still have to control all content. For instance, if you click on the direct link to the template it will not appear as the same as what I initially put up as an example.
https://photojay.jaylach.com/templates/sunset/

For instance, if I do end up using this, I'll probably end up losing the air show link and replace with a duplicate Gallery link as is shown in the top links. Then the gallery page would have links to the different types of videos such as the air show.

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LOL, now I see the home on the left connection with the lady who designed that website.

Here's one of the templates I liked. Could video be added to it?
https://www.freewebtemplates.com/downlo ... 863284378/

What program did you use to add the airshow content, or did you actually write the code (beyond my pay grade)? So if I were to download and use one of these templates, what website editor would I use? Still use something like Dreamweaver?

I found out the the basic (free) Web Builder from Host Gator does not allow embedded video, but the professional one does @ $6.99/month.

Thanks for continuing to educate me.... :mrgreen:

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@ Steve & David & anyone else who has built their own website - what program did you use, or did you write your own HTML code? Just curious....thanks.

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You can add the video code to any template. I used Dreamweaver just by doing a copy/paste of the code from the original video site I was working on.

I have a hunch that you don't fully understand what a template is. It is nothing more than a design that is already set up. You add/change any content that you want.

You use any editor you want to add/change the template's content then use FileZilla to upload the changed files to your hosting.

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Jay, I think I understand what a template is......I looked at many of those that you referenced. What I don't fully understand is how you then use an editor to add/change template content. So if I am going to use Dreamweaver to add/change template content, then there must be a way to first open up a template within Dreamweaver, do my edits, then save the modified template back to my computer.

I just haven't gotten that far in my tutorial guide yet, lol. And now it is my bedtime, so I will worry that project tomorrow. But thanks to you, I am getting closer to understanding all this esoteric stuff.

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To open a template file in Dreamweaver you go to 'file' then 'open'. Navigate to where you have stored the template and select the file. The first file to edit would be 'index.html'. You edit out all the stuff that you don't want and save the file as both 'index.html' and 'template.html'. When you edit out the garbage leave at least one word in the page element so you can still find where you are.

Now you edit the 'index.html' file to reflect what you want for your home page. The template.html file is to load in for other pages. You load the template.html file and use save as giving the hame that you will link to.

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